“I feel like music is supposed to be made with other people,” said Gabba, whose new collaboration with Singaporean singer-songwriter and producer Alicia DC blends his signature math-rock sound with Alicia’s lyrical vulnerability, marking a bold genre-blurring moment for both artists.

ICYDK, Gabba Santiago is a well-known Filipino multi-instrumentalist who has been taking the indie music by storm with his wordless narratives dressed in his signature sound, composed of brisk guitar and intricate drumming. He began his solo journey in 2020 and released a string of hit singles, as well as a full-length album, which he performed on international stages such as Wanderland Music and Arts Festival in Manila and SXSW in Sydney. He also recently won Guitarist of the Year at The New Hue’s Video Music last month, further cementing his name as one of Indie music’s most promising talents.

Meanwhile, Alicia DC is a rising musician in the Singapore music scene, having composed songs that can be described as pop, coupled with authentic lyrics. She released her first EP, “Maybe,” in 2022 and has since shown her versatility as a producer and songwriter.

The two artists released their collaboration, “fall,” this month, which tells the story of a lover’s quarrel, portrayed through raw and emotional lyrics and coupled with dynamic shifts in instrumentation. Co-produced by Francis Lorenzo, the three-minute track merges the brilliant minds of two very distinct artists, creating a retrospective piece that carves its place within the indie music scene.

The Beat Asia got to meet up with both artists to talk about their latest collaborative effort, and together we dove into the story of how the project came to be, their creative process, and what this track meant to each of them at this point in their careers.

A Collaboration that Made Sense

“Fall” wasn’t just an opportunity that fell into their laps, but began as Alicia DC’s effort to collaborate with artists outside of Singapore.

“It was more like I was listening to a bunch of artists on Spotify, and figuring out what would best suit my music and what kind of collaborators I could collaborate with,” the singer told The Beat Asia. “I just came across Gabba’s stuff, and it just so happened that he was coming to Singapore to perform.”

Gabba was part of the lineup for Music Day Out 2024, but even when they both attended the festival, it wasn’t until only a few weeks ago that they met up in person. Alicia mentioned how she had been too shy to approach and that her manager convinced her to pitch demos for Gabba to hear. “It took off from there,” she said.

The collaboration was done remotely, with them sending demos back and forth for a few months. However, Gabba told us an interesting tidbit about the production process. “It was stagnant for a bit,” he revealed. “Alicia sent me demos to choose from, and then we chose the demo for ‘fall’ but for two months nothing happened ‘cause we were both busy. But when it started to move, it was continuous.”

“There was a lot of stuff that we were doing. It took off when we were freer,” Alicia added, emphasizing how the entire process was smooth sailing once they had time to really sit down and focus on the track.

It didn’t take long before the demo was shaped into “fall” — a track which was inspired by Alicia DC’s personal experience.

“It’s about two lovers fighting, but the song itself doesn’t sound like a fight. Maybe because of the genre as well [math-rock]. There’s a lot of this constant groove that keeps changing now and then. There’s a continuous drive in it that makes it feel like you’re taking off. But the meaning of the song is basically about two lovers fighting, like the girl is saying ‘You don’t get me’ and the guy is like ‘You’re mean to me with your words.’ The two sides are clashing with each other because of their differences in communication styles.”

The songwriter also explained how, despite it being inspired by personal experience, she detached from it once she put it into music because the rhythm of the words created something that transformed into a math-rock song.

This collaboration marks Gabba’s first song that is more lyric-forward in terms of form, considering he had made a name for himself with his instrumental rock pieces and expressive compositions. Despite having words in the song, it never felt like the instrumental took the back seat and instead felt more like a duet, successfully balancing music and lyrics to form one cohesive track.

We asked the rock instrumentalist about what inspired the overall sound and how he managed to spotlight Alicia DC’s vocals without overshadowing his music.

“She sent the lyrics beforehand, and I tried my best to match the production in a way. My interpretation of it is like the ups and downs of the fighting — when you’re almost okay and then you’re not. I didn’t want to ask her what it was about. I wanted to interpret it on my own and then craft something around what my interpretation was.”

It made sense that the music felt like you’re taking off, the sound going through these shifts, which beautifully mirrored the emotional turmoil that happens in that situation.

“It was fun and challenging at the same time. I’m used to making music over a blank canvas, wherein I can put anything. But this time there it’s more direct, there are words to support. The production was much more intentional around what was being said. I also learned to restrain a bit to give way to the lead vocalist. Usually, the lead vocal in my songs is my guitar, but since we have Alicia’s very great voice, it was a challenge to make parts that were still me but at the same time guiding a centerpiece which was her vocals,” he added.

Having completed the track within a few months, we also asked the artists if there were any good surprises or challenges during the production. Alicia DC was quick to answer that there were more good surprises, emphasizing how Gabba brought out a whole new perspective, encouraging her to create something she would never have thought about in the first place.

“My thing with making adjustments on my side is like when we fleshed out the demo, I kept saying the song is too long here or the song is too long there, so we kept cutting the sections. And then when we cut it, the demo sounded a bit empty, but when I sent it to Gabba, he would come up with something completely different from what I was imagining. And for me it was like, 'Oh! I did not know that it could sound like this,' and I would build up on that.”

“I think my favorite surprise was the ending of the song,” the vocalist added. “There was supposed to be a quiet outro, but because of the way the song was fleshed out, the ending was too long, and we ended up just taking that part out. Gabba did this thing where he remixed my vocals and created some loops with electro beats, and then he made the ending loud towards the end instead. When I heard it, I immediately came up with ideas of my own. It was a good surprise, and it also made the song sound a lot more concise with a stronger impact.”

As for challenges, Gabba also mentioned the two-month stagnant sea they had to sail through and how they viewed music very differently. However, they eventually found common ground, and from there, they were able to use their strengths and complete the song efficiently.

This isn’t Alica DC’s first rodeo when it comes to working with other artists, having collaborated with the likes of electronic musician Ceratone in “Bridges” (2024) and Taiwanese singer June Pan in “You Up?” (2023). However, she did say that this collaboration felt the most effortless and that the challenge didn’t act as a hurdle in the process, but as motivation to try something new.

“I felt like this collab was easier to do. Even though there were challenges, it felt more effortless, and it made more sense because our sounds do work well together,” she said. “In my previous collaborations, it wasn’t bad, but it just wasn’t something authentically me. I was going for a super pop — very compressed pop sound. But for this song, because I had more knowledge of how I wanted it to sound in comparison to those previous pop songs, it made sense to collaborate with Gabba.”

Both artists are talented producers in their own right, having composed and produced their music on their own. However, they both agreed that being in a collaborative project creates a different experience production-wise, and gives them an opportunity to work on music beyond what they’re used to creating.

When asked if they prefer working alone or with collaborators, Gabba answered, “I think there are pros and cons for both, but if you’re going to ask me now, I would prefer to work with people just because it’s more organic and I feel like there’s more magic to be done in real time. It was really fun. I’ve been doing the Gabba thing on my own for the most part. I feel like music is supposed to be made with other people. It was so fun bouncing ideas with someone else.”

“I love doing both because I’m comfortable working with myself and with people. But when I produce by myself, I just sound super sterile. My ideas are very clear-cut, and my vision for the music is usually very clean and precise, but when I work with other people, there’s a beautiful mess that happens. And it sounds a lot more lively. So I think based on that alone, I would prefer to work with other people,” Alicia added.

The duo recently debuted the track at the inaugural edition of Spur Labs at Salu Salo last Aug. 2, and the song was launched on Aug. 6 on all streaming platforms.

With more collaboration down the line for Gabba and a new lead single in the dance-pop genre from Alicia DC in the coming months, stay tuned on their official social media pages for updates on the latest music releases and live performances.

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